Showing posts with label Housing Association. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Housing Association. Show all posts

Sunday, 5 June 2016

Old Pennar School......an update.

This is the first post post on this blog for rather a long time - too long I think.

The title of Old Pennar School has now be lodged with the land registry under the ownership of Pembrokeshire Housing Association. They paid £105,000 for the place.

The title has several covenants attached to it. If anyone can explain the purpose and significance of them I would be very grateful!

I have recently been in touch with Mr Nigel Sinnett of the Pembrokeshire Housing Association. I sent the email on or about 7 April 2016. A copy of my email is below:


Dear Nigel


I hope you and yours are well. I have a few questions about the work that PHA will be undertaking at Old Pennar School.


 Firstly, has a start date for the building been decided and if so, when would this be? I would like to be able to have the demise of the building recorded for posterity.


 Secondly, I assume you have plans for the demolition material from the school. What will happen to the limestone, particularly the dressed stone, as well as the internal fixtures of the school – such as partitions, fireplaces (such that survive) and roof timbers? I know of a couple of local heritage based projects that have a use for random limestone walling stone for repair and renovation of a couple of old houses. It would be excellent if some of this stone could be made available to those projects at low/no cost. I must come clean and confess that one of these projects is being undertaken by myself – a house/cottage almost within view of the school that has been virtually untouched since being built in about 1880 – contemporaneous with the school. The stone would be used to help with the repair of the garden wall and restoration of the old garden. The cottage has been in continuous occupation by the same family for over 100 years and retains most of its internal woodwork, which reflects the materials and skills of the workforce at Pembroke Dockyard. Such details would have ben ubiquitous in PD, but sadly in most houses in the town they have been ripped out in the name of progress. The other project is one south of Pembroke where a very old cottage is being rescued, along with a series of old outbuildings, with which I have some involvement. Information about the cottage in Bufferland/Pennar is attached.


It would be excellent too if some parts of the school could be retained in Pennar or lodged with the heritage centre in the Dockyard Chapel? I am thinking particularly of the stone tablet in the north gable of the building or some of the internal folding partitions and doors with their stone settings.


I do understand that the demolition contractors will probably want to make the as much money form the architectural salvage as possible, but if it is not too late, preservation locally of some parts of the building or use locally of the materials (not in land fill!) could be seen as a conciliatory gesture towards the local community who are saddened by the fate of the school.


I look forward to hearing from you.


Best wishes


Adrian James


Since writing the above letter it occurred to me that there is a need for a stock of traditional building materials to be maintained in the area of South Pembrokeshire for appropriate renovation projects on old buildings, particularly those listed or in the Pembroke Dock Conservation Area.

(At this point I shall make a relevant aside.... The need for such a supply of architectural salvage was made evident, several years ago, when my Auntie, who lived on Upper Row on Golden Hill in Pembroke, noticed workmen digging in the gutters outside her house. It transpired that they were lifting the old limestone kerbing and gutter setts (and replacing them with concrete!) so that the originals could be used to enhance the streets in Tenby. I thought it was outrageous then and I still think that today.)

The reply that I received form Mr Sinnett, on 15 April 2016, was both full and positive:



Adrian, thanks for your email

I’m sorry but I’ve been out of the office for much of this week and so I haven’t been able to respond. I did ask our development officer responsible for this scheme, Sam Stalbow, to summarise our position for me. I have cut and pasted this below.

The building works are scheduled within our 4 Year Development Programme for the 2016/17 period. A specific date has not been firmed up as of yet, though tenders have now been received and our consultants are currently examining them.

Regarding any building material from the existing school building. On all Pembrokeshire Housing Association development schemes a Principal Contractor is appointed to coordinate the construction phase of the project. Where demolition precedes any building work, it is the Principal Contractor’s responsibility to competently undertake any demolition and to dispose of all arisings/building material as they see fit. This could involve carting off site to an appropriate landfill, crushing to reuse material as aggregate or hardcore, or a plethora of alternatives. It is the contractor’s decision and as such, will affect the cost of the work. This is standard procedure and reflects the tender documentation.

Due to any demolition material ultimately being the responsibility of the principal contractor, my best suggestion would be that we provide a means of contact between you and the Principal Contractor (once appointed). This will allow you to strike up a dialogue with respect to any recycling or reuse of specific building materials.

The reason for this is that as the client, if we were to retrospectively request that building materials be reclaimed, we would essentially invalidate our tender. An example here would be; if a contractor had priced within their tender to demolish the building and crush the stone to use as hardcore. Suggest we were to then retrospectively request the contractor carefully remove and reclaim the quoin stones of the building. This would cost the contractor greatly in that they would have to supply hardcore from elsewhere, as well as change their method for demolition substantially.

It is with this in mind that I feel a dialogue between the principal contractor and yourself would be appropriate, with the aim of agreeing any potential reclamation of building materials. All of our contractors are registered with Considerate Constructors and as part of the Code of Considerate Practice it would be in their best interest to speak with the local community about this.

The development team have worked with a structural engineer to come up with a solution allowing us to retain the stone wall that bounds with the public footpath to the north of the site. Originally this wall was to be demolished and rebuilt. Where possible, we are endeavouring to retain what we can whilst still satisfying the various regulations that we are subject to as a housing association as well as keeping the scheme financially viable.

Additionally, we would look to retain any historically significant items such as the stone tablet on the northern gable, and would seek to liaise with the Town Council regarding the best solution for this.

We would be happy to engage with the Town Council further on this matter. As for the heritage centre, again it would be best for the centre to strike up a relationship with the successful contractor once we have reached a decision on who to appoint. Sam will be able to advise further on this once we have appointed the contractor and as the scheme progresses.

Regards

Nigel



I have this evening, 5 June 2016, heard unconfirmed reports. that the demolition of the school is imminent. I have not received any further correspondence from Pembrokeshire Housing Association, despite their assurances that they would be in touch.

AJ. 5/6/16



Friday, 21 August 2015

Old Pennar School - Getting the Building Listed (Part 5)

Apologies for the rather long gap between postings, but there has been little news to report on Old Pennar School.

However, I can post some more information from the document I submitted to CADW re: the listing of the Old School.


More to follow very soon!


Wednesday, 22 July 2015

Old Pennar School - Getting a building listed (Part 1)

When you approach CADW to get a building listed, you have to provide certain pieces of information. The first of these is, quite naturally, the location of the building. That is:

Old Pennar School – Application for Listing

Name and location of buildings (with grid references, post code or map extract if possible)


Old Pennar School
Treowen Road
Pennar
Pembroke Dock
Pembrokeshire
SA72 6NZ


OSGB Grid Reference: SM 96208 02698 (Centre building)





Having done this, CADW now know where the building is. Next time, exterior views of the building.




Saturday, 13 June 2015

Old Pennar - who to contact (Part 1)

The meeting on 11th June 2015 was well attended - 65 from all sides present. As it was an informal discussion, no minutes were taken. The meeting lasted over 90 minutes.

The members of the panel:

Pembrokeshire Housing Association;
Pembrokeshire County Council;
Pembroke Town Council;
Councillor Tony Wilcox;

can now be under no illusion over the depth of feeling over the proposal to demolish Old Pennar School.

I was asked by several of those present to provide contact details for people or organisations that might be able offer support or guidance for our objections to the demolition of Old Pennar School.

People you may wish to contact to seek further clarification on any procedural concerns you might have concerning the sale and proposed demolition of Old Pennar School. For example, if you have expressed an interest in the property and have been denied a request to view it even though this contravenes Pembrokeshire County Council's own guidelines as expressed on their website.
Note:

  •  
  • Conditions of Sale 

    • 1) The purchaser is responsible for ensuring that they are satisfied by way of inspection or otherwise as to the correctness of these particulars, which do not constitute any part of any contract. 
    • 2) The Council does not give and the Councils employees have no authority to make or give any representation or warranty whatsoever in relation to the property. 
    • 3) All measurements and areas are approximate and given as a guide only. 
    • 4) The Council has a duty to consider any offers received prior to an exchange of contracts. 
    • 5) The vendor does not undertake to accept the highest or any offer and no offer should be made which is calculable by reference to the offer of another party. 
    • 6) Whilst every care has been taken in the preparation of these particulars their accuracy is not guaranteed and interested parties must satisfy themselves on all matters upon which their offer is based. 



    NOTE: The parties mentioned below, regardless of political affiliations, have a DUTY to listen to and respond to their constituents concerns. It is their job.










Angela Burns AM / AC

Welsh Conservative Member for Carmarthen West and South Pembrokeshire / Aelod y Ceidwadwyr Cymreig dros Gorllewin Caerfyrddin a De Sir Benfro.

14 Market Square
Narberth
Pembrokeshire
SA67 7AU

Tel: 01834 862725

email: Angela.Burns@Assembly.Wales



Simon Hart, MP

In writing:

15 St John Street
Whitland
Carmarthenshire
SA340AN

In person:
Alternatively, if you would like to meet me at one of my surgeries then please ring my office on 01994 342002 to book an appointment. These are held regularly throughout Carmarthenshire and Pembrokeshire.


By telephone:
The best way to contact me is to ring my constituency office on 01994 342002 or you can also try calling me in the House of Commons on 0207 219 3000

By email: simon.hart.mp@parliament.uk
"Please include your address on any correspondence to enable me to help you more quickly."


I have emailed both of the above representatives. Angela Burns, AM responded very quickly and has made the point that she would wish to hear from her constituents in order to gauge the level of concern over the matter.

Simon Hart, MP has yet to reply other than by an automated response, to my email. This may be because I am not a local constituent, so I will raise the matter with my own MP and ask for Mr Hart to be informed about the concerns that were expressed at the meeting in Pennar Hall and in the letters of objection to the council.



COUNCILLOR TONY WILCOX
 
Tel: 01646 621942
25 Owen Street,
Pennar,
Pembroke Dock,
 
Pembrokeshire County Council.

"Making a Complaint - What can I complain about?

We take all complaints seriously. If, as a customers of services from Pembrokeshire County Council, you are not happy with the way we've dealt with you, we want you to tell us so that we can, where possible, sort out the problems and provide a resolution."
 

 

Public Service Ombudsman for Wales

The website for the ombudsman gives full contact details and how to make a complaint.


Public Services Ombudsman for Wales
1 Ffordd yr Hen Gae
Pencoed
CF35 5LJ
Tel: 0300 790 0203
Fax: (01656) 641199






Sunday, 7 June 2015

Save Old Pennar School - Objection and Comments

If you have objected to the proposal to demolish Old Pennar School, then might I ask that you let me have a copy of your objection/comment?

If you have yet to comment, I believe that the application is still open for comments at:

Comments re: demolition of Old Pennar School

This is a very important request and your reply at the earliest opportunity would be most appreciated. Comments on the posts on this blog would be helpful too!

Email: SaveOldPennarSchool@gmail.com



Saturday, 6 June 2015

Save Old Pennar School - PCC forget to follow their own plans!

First of all, I must apologise in advance. The post below is pretty boring, but to challenge the demolition of Old Pennar School we all have to be understanding of the way the planners will make their decisions. Here goes........ if it matters, you will keep up!

Pembrokeshire County Council (PCC) has a Local Development Plan (LDP). The full document can be downloaded from PCC LDP. The link will also give you access to some very clear maps of Pembrokeshire which are very useful for building up an insight into the future "layout" of the county.

Naturally, given my attachment to and love of Pembrokeshire, I have read this document and have noticed a few things...........

This glossy booklet of 184 pages sets out what the County Council's vision for the future of Pembrokeshire is. It was adopted in February 2013 and it is the document that guides the future decision making of the council. The forward by Councillor Rob Lewis says, in part,

"This Local Development Plan provides the framework for decisions to be made up
until 2021 on how land is used and developed, for example what type of
development is appropriate or desirable for Pembrokeshire’s economy,
communities and environment and how best to secure resilience to climate
change and to bring forward affordable housing through the Planning System. It is
the culmination of a major piece of work that has included engaging with the
community, stakeholders, and elected members over a number of years and its
completion and adoption is a significant milestone for the County Council."

I wonder how much the process all cost? Another day perhaps...... However, we all need rules to guide us....................?

In relation to the future of Old Pennar School, the sections on General Policy, that relate to Affordable Housing and the site of the school, are particularly relevant

GN.26 Residential Development p. 110
GN.27 Residential Allocations p. 113
GN.28 Local Needs Affordable Housing p. 116
GN.29 Exception Sites for Local Needs Affordable Housing p. 118
GN.33 Community Facilities p. 121
GN.37 Protection and Enhancement of Biodiversity p. 126
GN.38 Protection and Enhancement of the Historic Environment p. 127



The LDP (page 111) gives PCC policy in relation to redevelopment of sites for housing as:

“6.111 Redevelopment or replacement can allow the development of housing accommodation which is better adapted to meeting present and future housing needs, contribute to energy efficiency and reduced carbon dioxide levels as long as the quality of the environment is enhanced. The existing dwelling should not be a Listed Building, or an important building that defines the character of an area.”

Demolishing the school will erode the identity of Pennar.

A view of the east wing of Old Pennar School
The church and school, along with places work, define the character of any community. In Pennar, the old school, St Patrick's Church, the church hall and the park at the eastern end of Military Road are a focal point for the community. They have a special significance as a group of community buildings. They are landmarks that must have been seen and passed by all who have ever visited this very independent suburb of Pembroke Dock. The

Pennar Hall, used as a canteen for the school and  church Sunday school
school building, commanding an imposing raised plot overlooking the sole road access to Pennar, with its dedication plaque high on its north-east gable, marks the time when the district began to declare its own unique identity. The end of the the nineteenth century saw the arrival of shipbuilding on the Pembroke River, a proposal to run a railway to East Pennar and the arrival of the Royal Engineers on the headland at the end of Military Road. The school is a symbol of this period of time when Pennar came of age.

Please help stop this local landmark form being demolished!!


St Patrick's, Pennar, from the East




The view form the entrance to the park  just up the road and opposite
Old Pennar School. Here sports days, football and cricket games took place,
overlooking medieval Pembroke


















Military Road from the park gates
Treowen Road from in front of the church and hall